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| «هيئة الأمر بالمعروف» تستعين بـ «المجاهدين» في جولاتها الميدانية |
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Posted by: ZAF - 09-21-2008 06:39 PM
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 | «هيئة الأمر بالمعروف» تستعين بـ «المجاهدين» في جولاتها الميدانية
الرياض - رياض المسلم الحياة - 21/09/08//
أكّد المتحدث باسم الرئاسة العامة لهيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر أحمد الجردان أن «الهيئة» ستستعين بعدد كبير من موظفي الإدارة العامة للمجاهدين في المناطق كافة، للمساعدة في الجولات الميدانية خلال الأيام العشرة الأخيرة من شهر رمضان.
وقال لـ «الحياة» أمس أن المخالفات تنخفض بشكل واضح خلال شهر رمضان، لكن في العشر الأواخر تنشط الحركة في الأسواق وترتكب مخالفات عدة، أبرزها المعاكسات، لذا يتم تكثيف العمل الميداني، مشيراً إلى أن عمل موظفي «الهيئة» لا يقتصر على القبض والمراقبة فقط في هذا الوقت، بل يوزعون أيضاً مطويات وأشرطة دينية. وشدد على أن موظفي الهيئة لا ينظرون إلى المجتمع نظرة سوداوية أو متشائمة «بل ننظر إلى الجميع بتفاؤل، ولا نظن في الناس إلا الخير، فإن وجد خطأ فهو ينسب إلى مرتكبه وليس إلى المجتمع بكامله، لأننا في مركب واحد».
ونفى ما يتردد في الآونة الأخيرة عن ضرب بعض منسوبي الهيئة للمخالفين. وقال: «هذا الكلام غير صحيح على الإطلاق، فدور موظفي الهيئة يقتصر على القبض فقط وتسليم المخالف إلى الجهات المتخصصة»، مرحباً بأي اقتراح «مكاتب الهيئة مفتوحة لأي مقترح أو شكوى أو ملاحظة تأتي من أي فرد من أفراد المجتمع، وأخذنا بالكثير من المقترحات التي وصلتنا من شرائح المجتمع وعملنا بها، ومنها ما أصبح مشاريع كبرى فيما بعد».
وعن طبيعة عمل لجنة دراسة العمل الميداني التي أقرت أخيراً في الرئاسة العامة لهيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر، ردّ الجردان بالقول: «اللجنة تأتي ضمن توجيه الرئيس العام لهيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر إبراهيم الغيث لتطوير العمل الميداني وظهوره بالشكل المطلوب، وتطلع اللجنة على سير العمل من خلال التقارير ومشاهدة الوقائع، وعلى ضوء النتائج يكون اتخاذ القرار المناسب لتطوير وتعزيز الإيجابيات وعلاج السلبيات».
http://ksa.daralhayat.com/local_news/riy...story.html
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| Saudi judge condemns 'immoral TV' |
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Posted by: ZAF - 09-14-2008 02:27 AM
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 | I wanted to name it differently but backed off at the last second (previous title "We are terrorists" )
This was published Friday 12th September 2008 on BBC NEWS:
Saudi judge condemns 'immoral TV'
The most senior judge in Saudi Arabia has said it is permissible to kill the owners of satellite TV channels which broadcast immoral programmes.
Sheikh Salih Ibn al-Luhaydan said some "evil" entertainment programmes aired by the channels promoted debauchery.
Dozens of satellite television channels broadcast across the Middle East, where they are watched by millions of Arabs every day.
The judge made the comments on a state radio programme.
He was speaking in response to a listener who asked his opinion on the airing of programmes featuring scantily-dressed women during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
"There is no doubt that these programmes are a great evil, and the owners of these channels are as guilty as those who watch them," said the sheikh.
"It is legitimate to kill those who call for corruption if their evil can not be stopped by other penalties."
Royal dilemma
Given his position as the country's most senior judge, the sheikh's views can not be easily dismissed, says BBC Arab affairs analyst, Magdi Abdelhadi.
Clerics like Sheikh al-Luhaydan represent a huge dilemma for the Saudi royal family, our correspondent adds.
On the one hand, Saudi rulers need their support to claim that they rule in the name of Islam.
But on the other hand, fighting militant Islam can be difficult when the country's top judge calls for the beheading of those he views as immoral broadcasters.
And if you think this is one of the "west are trying to destroy Islam" Then check this out
Check out what Awatan news paper published on Saturday 13th September 2008
الفتوى أثارت جدلاً وتسببت في قلق الأوساط التلفزيونية
رئيس مجلس القضاء يجيز قتل ملاّك الفضائيات "قضاءً" ما لم يمتنعوا عن بث "المجون"
أفتى رئيس مجلس القضاء الأعلى في المملكة الشيخ صالح اللحيدان بقتل ملاك القنوات الفضائية العربية "قضاءً" بصفتهم مفسدين في الأرض ودعاة فتنة. جاء ذلك في البرنامج الشهير اليومي "نور على الدرب" بثته إذاعة القرآن الكريم يوم الأربعاء المنصرم أثناء إجابته على استفسار أحد المستمعين.
وجاء السؤال الأول على لسان (أ.ع.س) وقال فيه: إن الفتن الكثيرة التي يجلبها أصحاب القنوات الفضائية في شهر رمضان على وجه الخصوص تكثر برامجهم السيئة، ويركزون في فترة المغرب وفترة العشاء على المسلمين، ما نصيحتكم سواء كانت للمشاهدين أو لأصحاب هذه القنوات؟ وجاء في إجابة الشيخ اللحيدان: إن من يدعون إلى الفتن إذا قُدر على منعه ولم يمتنع قد يحل قتله، لأن دعاة الفساد في الاعتقاد أو في العمل إذا لم يندفع شرهم بعقوبات دون القتل جاز قتلهم "قضاءً". فالأمر خطير لأن الله جل وعلا لما ذكر قتل النفس قال "أو فساد في الأرض"، فالإنسان يقتل بالنفس أو بالفساد في الأرض، وإفساد العقائد، وإفساد الأخلاق والدعوة لذلك نوع من الفساد العريض في الأرض.
وأردف: لعل أصحاب هؤلاء القنوات أن يتقوا الله جل وعلا، ويتوبوا، ويجعلوا قنوات بثهم مذكرة بخير، محذرة المسلمين من الشر، داعية لهم أن يستعدوا للمحافظة على إسلامهم وحراسة دينهم، وأن يكفوا عن نشر الفساد والإفساد، والدعوة إلى السحر والمجون؛ والله المستعان.
وقد أثارت هذه الفتوى جدلاً في مواقع الإنترنت والصحف الإلكترونية وأذاعتها قناة العربية في نشراتها الرئيسية، وتسببت في قلق لدى ملاك القنوات الفضائية الرسمية منها والخاصة، ممن حاولت "الوطن" الحصول على ردود فعلهم، لكنهم آثروا التريث في إبداء مواقفهم حتى تنجلي حقيقة الفتوى وتتضح الأمور. وقد حاولت "الوطن" الاتصال بالشيخ اللحيدان عدة مرات ولم يتم الحصول على تفصيل لسياق وظروف الفتوى من الشيخ اللحيدان نفسه رغم اتصالها المتكرر على هواتفه المعروفة.
أفتى رئيس مجلس القضاء الأعلى في المملكة الشيخ صالح اللحيدان بقتل ملاك القنوات الفضائية العربية (قضاءً) بصفتهم مفسدين في الأرض ودعاة فتنة. جاء ذلك في البرنامج الشهير اليومي (نور على الدرب) الذي بثته إذاعة القرآن الكريم يوم الأربعاء الماضي أثناء إجابته على استفسار أحد المستمعين.
وجاء السؤال الأول على لسان (أ.ع.س) وقال فيه إن الفتن الكثيرة التي يجلبها أصحاب القنوات الفضائية في شهر رمضان على وجه الخصوص تكثر برامجهم السيئة، ويركزون في فترة المغرب وفترة العشاء على المسلمين. ما نصيحتكم سواء كان للمشاهدين أو لأصحاب هذه القنوات؟ فأجاب الشيخ اللحيدان بالجواب التالي:
أنا أنصح أصحاب هؤلاء القنوات الذين يبثون الدعوة "للخناعة والمجون"، أو الفكاهة والضحك، وإضاعة الوقت بغير فائدة ولا أجر، وأحذرهم من مغبة آثار من يقتدون بما يعرض هؤلاء، وما يقعون فيه، فمن وقع في شيء مما يعرض من هذه "الفتن" بسبب ما عرض وشاهد يكون عليه وزر عمله، ويكون على دعاة ذلك الشر والبلاء مثل أوزار هؤلاء دون أن ينقص من أجر هؤلاء. فما الظن إذا كانت بعض هذه القنوات سببا في انحراف آلاف الناس. بماذا يفكر مالك القناة والموفر لها دعايات الإغراء، ودعوات "الفحش والمجون"، أو ما يجلبه من الشكوك والتشكيك؟ فقد تفسد عقائد، وتنقلب فطر، وتجترح قضايا كبار بسبب هذه الفساد ليجني مادة قليلة، وهو لا يدري.
وأضاف الشيخ اللحيدان: إن من يدعون إلى الفتن إذا قُدر على منعه ولم يمتنع قد يحل قتله، لأن دعاة الفساد في الاعتقاد أو في العمل إذا لم يندفع شرهم بعقوبات دون القتل جاز قتلهم "قضاءً ". فالأمر خطير لأن الله جل وعلا لما ذكر قتل النفس قال"أو فساد في الأرض"، فالإنسان يقتل بالنفس أو بالفساد في الأرض، وإفساد العقائد، وإفساد الأخلاق والدعوة لذلك نوع من الفساد العريض في الأرض.
وأردف: لعل أصحاب هذه القنوات أن يتقوا الله جل وعلا، ويتوبوا، ويجعلوا قنوات بثهم مذكرة بخير، محذرة المسلمين من الشر، داعية لهم أن يستعدوا للمحافظة على إسلامهم وحراسة دينهم، وأن يكفوا عن نشر الفساد والإفساد، والدعوة إلى السحر والمجون؛ والله المستعان.
وقد أثارت هذه الفتوى جدلا في مواقع الإنترنت والصحف الإلكترونية وأذاعتها قناة العربية في نشراتها الرئيسية. وتسببت في قلق لدى ملاك القنوات الفضائية الرسمية منها والخاصة، ممن حاولت "الوطن" الحصول على ردود فعلهم، لكنهم آثروا التريث في إبداء مواقفهم حتى تنجلي حقيقة الفتوى وتتضح الأمور. وقد حاولت "الوطن" الاتصال بالشيخ اللحيدان عدة مرات ولم يتم الحصول على تفصيل لسياق وظروف الفتوى من الشيخ اللحيدان نفسه رغم اتصالها المتكرر على هواتفه المعروفة.
Links
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7613575.stm
http://www.alwatan.com.sa/news/newsdetai...&groupID=0
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| Feeling flirty? Take a cold shower. |
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Posted by: Lascar - 02-23-2008 09:41 PM
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Saudi men arrested for 'flirting'
Young men in a shopping centre in Saudi Arabia (archive)
Relations between the sexes outside marriage is against the law
Prosecutors in Saudi Arabia have begun investigating 57 young men who were arrested on Thursday for flirting with girls at shopping centres in Mecca.
The men are accused of wearing indecent clothes, playing loud music and dancing in order to attract the attention of girls, the Saudi Gazette reported.
They were arrested following a request of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.
The mutaween enforce Saudi Arabia's conservative brand of Islam, Wahhabism.
Earlier in the month, the authorities enforced a ban on the sale of red roses and other symbols used in many countries to mark Valentine's Day.
The ban is partly because of the connection with a "pagan Christian holiday", and also because the festival itself is seen as encouraging relations between the sexes outside marriage, punishable by law in the kingdom.
The Prosecution and Investigation Commission said it had received reports of such "bad" behaviour by 57 young men at a number of shopping centres in the holy city of Mecca, the Saudi Gazette said.
The guardians of some of the men defended their actions, however, saying they would regularly get together at the weekend to have fun without ever violating laws governing the segregation of the sexes, it added.
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| Going to Riyadh, Girl on a Death Row? |
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Posted by: Aetas - 02-21-2008 08:03 PM
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Hey Everyone! Gosh, it’s been over 2 years since I’ve posted something on Jeddah-Elite, and I’m back, excited and energetic!
This thread’s topic is something that is quite personal, but I think it would be beneficial to share with the rest of you. My guess, I’m not the only one who’s going through this.
I’ll make this brief, I grew up with a certain "Idea" about non Hijazi people, and to be more specific, Saudis from the central region *Najdis*. Funny enough, here I am, standing before my future and destiny leading me to a life with a husband and a family, in what I consider, simply, Hell On Earth, a.k.a Riyadh . Of course, if it wasn’t for love leading me there, I wouldn’t think twice about moving there or even stepping a foot there, and with that I learnt my most valuable lesson, Never say Never!
To comfort myself I decided to weigh the pros and cons of living in Riyadh, I’ve never been there, but I do have friends who are either from there or lived there when they were younger. I went to them, desperate to hear some good things about Riyadh.
So is it true? Is it true a woman can’t even go to a mall alone? Is it true you’re beaten to death with a stick if you don’t cover up your face, hands, feet & toe nails?
All these rumors or facts about this mysterious extremist citymakes me think I’ve been living in a completely different country.
So, what is the truth about Riyadh?
Who is out there that can actually stand up and give me real facts about living in this mystifying city?
Who can solve me this enigma?
I have posted this thread to share my thoughts with you. Discuss and weigh Riyadh’s Pros & Cons together.
It would help me and many others to get the right information and idea from those of you who have actually seen and been there!
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| SR20,000 Loan to Renovate Old Jeddah Buildings |
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Posted by: Nitro - 02-06-2008 08:59 AM
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 | Arab News
JEDDAH, 5 February 2008 — The Jeddah Municipality yesterday announced its readiness to make available SR20,000 in loans to the owners of old buildings in the historic district of Jeddah to renovate them immediately. The municipality’s offer came after an historical building (Baashen House) in the area caught fire recently as a result of an electrical short-circuit.
Dr. Adnan Adas, director of the department for developing and renovating buildings in the historic district, said property owners were responsible for the recurrent fires.
He raised objections against renting old buildings to large number of Saudi and expatriate tenants, saying the buildings lack the capability to hold them.
“A special panel has been formed to identify buildings that require immediate renovation and the eviction of their occupants,” the official said. “A technical directory has been prepared for the renovation of these buildings,” he added.
Brig. Mohammad Al-Ghamdi, director of Civil Defense in Jeddah, attributed the recurrent fires in these old buildings to their occupants.
“Some people use these buildings to store clothes and other goods,” he pointed out.
He also emphasized the need for spraying the wooden scuttles with special paint to prevent them from catching fire. He also proposed the setting up of a special fire-fighting network in the area to put out fires quickly.
There are about 550 historical buildings in the district. Fifty of them are listed as Grade One buildings, 250 Grade Two and 250 Grade Three.
During the last 25 years some 60 buildings have collapsed. The last two years have seen some 10 to 13 buildings in the district either collapsed or burned.
Good News,but i wonder if the 20 000 is enough,lets see what dr.sami angawi will say! |
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| Coffee With Colleague Lands Woman in Trouble |
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Posted by: Nitro - 02-06-2008 08:57 AM
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 | Raid Qusti, Arab News
RIYADH, 5 February 2008 — A Saudi mother of three, who works as a business partner and financial consultant for a reputable company in Jeddah, didn’t expect that a trip to the capital to open the company’s new branch office would have her thrown behind bars by the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice.
Yara, a petite 40-year-old woman, was in tears yesterday after she narrated to Arab News her encounter with a commission member that ended in high drama.
Yara, who has been married for 27 years, said she spent several hours in the women’s section of Riyadh’s Malaz Prison, was strip-searched, ordered to sign a confession that she was in a state of “khulwa” (a state of seclusion with an unrelated man) and for hours prevented from contacting her husband in Jeddah.
Her crime? Having a cup of coffee with a colleague in a Starbucks.
Yara said she arrived in the capital yesterday morning from Jeddah to check on the company’s new office.
“The minute I came into the office my colleagues told me that we have an issue with the electricity company and that we do not have power but that it would be back on in half an hour,” she said.
As they were waiting, they decided to go to the ground floor of the building to have a cup of coffee in the family section of Starbucks. Family sections are the only places where men and women can sit together in establishments in Saudi Arabia. Officially, these sections are for families only, but in practical terms these sections — usually in international chains like Starbucks — become the only places where unrelated men and women can be comfortable that they won’t be harassed by commission members.
But yesterday Yara and her colleague found themselves in trouble with the commission. One moment they were sitting together discussing brand equity and sovereign wealth funds; the next moment she found herself in commission custody.
Shortly after they took their coffee and Yara opened her laptop, a member of the commission approached the two and demanded the man step outside.
“Then (the commission member) came to me and said: ‘You need to come with us. This man is not a relative,’” she said.
When she told the commission member that she wanted to contact her husband by phone, he refused.
“I am the government,” Yara quoted him as saying. He then ordered her to come with him.
Yara described how the commission member had to wave a taxi down to begin the hours-long process of punishing the woman for having a cup of coffee in a public place with a colleague. When she hesitated about entering the taxi, she said the commission member threatened her.
“I am the government and you have to get in,” she said, recounting the words of the commission member.
Inside the taxi, Yara said the commission member snatched her phone from her as she tried to call her husband. She told Arab News that even the cab driver felt uneasy but, knowing the power of the commission in Riyadh, refrained from interfering.
Eventually the cab approached a GMC Suburban, the vehicle of choice for the commission members, parked in front of one of the commission centers. Yara pleaded with the cab driver not to leave her.
“I was begging him to stay with me,” she said. But the taxi driver was ordered to move on and Yara found herself locked in the back of the GMC.
Time passed, she said. Commission members came and went. She said they preached to her about the grave sin she committed.
“Your husband is no good,” she said, recounting the words of the commission members. “He should not have let you do this.”
She said she was admonished for traveling alone. The commission members told her that her colleague admitted that they always went out together. (Later, she learned that her colleague, a Syrian national, was also arrested. He still remains in detention.)
“I told (the commission member) that I am a good Muslim, a mother of three, and a God-fearing person who would never do shameful things,” she told Arab News in tears.
Last year, the Interior Ministry issued a ruling that the commission cannot detain people and must pass them on to the police.
Yara said that she was handed a confession.
“He told me I needed to fingerprint this paper stating that I got my mobile phone and bag back,” she said. “When I told him my phone was still confiscated, he threatened me: ‘Just do it!’”
She said that she fingerprinted the paper under duress.
“I had no other choice ... I was scared for my life ... I was afraid that they would abuse me or do something to me,” she said, as she broke down in tears again.
Then another person got into the GMC and switched on the engine.
“The next thing I saw from the window was that we were approaching a place with a sign written on the outside: Malaz Prison,” she said.
Inside the prison, Yara recounts being taken to a cell with a one-way mirror. On the other side was a sheikh.
“I could not see him because there was a dark window,” she said, adding that each time she paused he would reprimand her, telling her what she did was wrong. “He kept on telling me this is not allowed.”
Yara told the sheikh that her husband knew where she was and what she was doing. He then started writing a report. Another pre-written confession was fingerprinted, she said. She pleaded with prison authorities to contact her husband.
“They would not let me contact my husband,” she said. “I told them... please... my husband will have a heart attack if he does not know what has happened to me.”
She was not given a phone to call her husband. She was not given access to a lawyer. “They stripped me,” she said. “They checked that I had nothing with me and threw me in the cell with all the others.”
Meanwhile, Yara’s husband Hatim, an executive director of a prominent company, was in Jeddah when he received a phone call. “My friend contacted me and told me that the commission had captured my wife,” he said.
He booked the next flight to Riyadh and, after some strings were pulled, Yara was out of jail.
“I look at this as if she had been kidnapped by thugs,” said Hatim. “There’s really nothing else to it ... I know this has nothing to do with the country, but these (people) are thugs. Unfortunately, they told her that they are ‘the government’ so she could not resist.”
The Syrian colleague was still in custody by the time Arab News went to press. He is a senior financial analyst, who is described by acquaintances as a devout Muslim whose mother teaches Qur’an recitation to children.
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