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| Open Letter to Saudis. |
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Posted by: Nitro - 06-10-2009 04:57 PM
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Open Letter to Saudis
Tanya C. Hsu, Arab News
Having returned from the Kingdom, four weeks in an abaya and hijab, I am angry and frustrated. As an analyst specializing in Saudi Arabia I knew much of what to expect, thus covering and not being able to drive were nonissues. Landing in Jeddah I dropped ten degrees body temperature switching from linen to an abaya. Four weeks later, I flew through to Atlanta without removing my abaya, not only to test American reactions but because it was comfortable and practical. In Riyadh’s Bedu Souk I added a burqa and realized, for the first time in my adult life, men spoke directly to me rather than to a physique. That is respect.
Having completed my book on the Kingdom, I had been invited to the Saudi American Interactive Dialogue in Jeddah. Staying to gather material for a second book, I met with people from all walks of life: Rich, poor, mothers, working women; the highly successful, the unemployed, royalty, Bedouin market sellers, and those in between. I met with Saudis by birth, Saudis by choice, and foreigners. I lived with Saudi families, those with domestic help and those without. All were open and eager to share their opinions. I traveled freely across the country, an “Arab” woman alone. Fed monumental amounts of food in Saudi homes nightly, unable to escape such generous hospitality, I never witnessed men separate from women. In Riyadh I used a Saudi friend’s office for a fortnight, was treated equally and was privy to top-level business discussions. Thus began my irritation.
I had expected to return to the US, defensive posture prepared. Since Sept. 11, I have tried in vain to explain the Kingdom to a country reluctant to understand or listen, have been the target of attacks, and have had professional difficulty for insisting on clarity on Saudi issues. It is acceptable in the US to be anti-war, anti-Bush, or support the Palestinians; it is not acceptable on either side of the political spectrum to be “pro-Saudi”. That is “sleeping with the enemy” or “hero worship”. Little of Saudi Arabia is covered in the West other than trade, oil, and proclamations of reform. Sadly, within the Kingdom and despite access to satellite television, newspapers and the Internet, even Jarir Bookstore has yet to catch up: Only travel and photography books, or historical biographies of Gertrude Bell and Harry Philby were available. Not permitting political material available to a hungry public belies logic at this stage.
I experienced few inconveniences. Prayer time forces the habit of pausing. Time passes differently in the United States as we race from work to school to the grocery store to after-school activities to dinner, housecleaning and laundry, finally collapsing in exhaustion having barely spoken to our children eating in separate rooms at different times. Families walk together along the Jeddah corniche, flying kites or riding donkeys, barbecues permeating the air — vastly different to the deafening X-rated rap music that invades main streets in America as teens cruise.
So why am I angry?
During all my conversations one question remained unanswered. When asked, What makes you proud to be Saudi, “being Muslim” or “being Arab” was as common a reply as “being the home of the Two Holy Cities”. One can easily define Palestinian anger, Iraqi angst, or Syrian character, yet I received nothing on Saudi national patriotism. Can you not see?
For years you have publicly apologized for comparatively low levels of violence, lack of reform, or the slow pace of change. Repeatedly I heard the despair and cynicism blinding you to what is happening in front of you: Palpable change, construction growth, new institutions, reform efforts, and the mutawa. You have much to be proud of, but your politeness and kindness allows the West to trample you, naming you a threat to “democracy” and the world.
You cannot let this continue. Pre-empt the increase in anti-Saudi hostility and stop re-emphasizing your weaknesses. You are a dignified people, so take pride in your country in action, not just spirit. Explain to the world how you respect women, how safe and free from crime you are, and how family takes priority. Demand how the US, world leader in murder, rape and domestic violence, dare accuse you of human rights abuses. Ask how Americans can defend their preferred method of capital punishment by electrocuting women, minors and the mentally handicapped. How, if democracy includes the export of the largest pornographic industry throughout the world, can they judge the Kingdom for its restrictions? Why can a Saudi leave his wallet, laptop and digital camera on the front seat of a car, as I did, and return to find everything intact? Americans live in gated subdivisions with security alarms; child molesters roam free in every neighborhood. Half empty compounds in the Kingdom are triple barricaded, one Alkhobar compound protected by five security walls and armored trucks. Murderers don’t return to the scene of their crime, so why such fear? Nuns, priests, Jewish settlers, rabbis and Catholics cover their heads but Saudi women are “oppressed” for such? Why apologize for your rate of progress when it took the United States two hundred years, until 1920, to grant women the right to vote? American women are paid seventy-five cents to the dollar compared to men; the Prophet’s first wife was his employer, a successful and powerful businesswoman.
Another wife, Aisha, fought in battle alongside men, and Islam forbids racism. How then did it take until 1963 after riots and protests before blacks were granted civil rights, the end to segregation, and freedom? Bias remains rampant and races still do not mix freely.
Why can the US government attack any Arab nation when not one Arab state has ever threatened America? Is this “democracy”? More importantly, is this what you want?
Of course, there is much to fix within the Kingdom. All regions rise and fall. There is little difference in the speed of bureaucracy between Saudi Arabia and Sweden or France; ministers settle in to roles of government power and have no desire for change.
You have a ready-made group available for pressing issues: The mutawa could be assigned to fine dangerous drivers (intent to kill is haraam) or punish anyone seen littering: It is a disgrace to the religion, the environment and people’s health.
Globalization and technology are here to stay, so as Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab brought reform for the sake of unity in the eighteenth century, again use ijtihad (individual interpretation) and contextualization to unite for the sake of the Kingdom, Islam, and national pride.
There is indeed something enigmatic about the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia — perhaps the people, perhaps the history, perhaps the land. Had I the chance to stay I would have searched until I found an answer. A piece of my heart remained in the Kingdom. I can only hope that I may soon return to find out why.
— Tanya C. Hsu is the author of the forthcoming book, “Target: Saudi Arabia”. She may be reached at TanyaHsu@mindspring.com
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| «هيئة الأمر بالمعروف» تستعين بـ «المجاهدين» في جولاتها الميدانية |
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Posted by: ZAF - 09-21-2008 06:39 PM
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 | «هيئة الأمر بالمعروف» تستعين بـ «المجاهدين» في جولاتها الميدانية
الرياض - رياض المسلم الحياة - 21/09/08//
أكّد المتحدث باسم الرئاسة العامة لهيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر أحمد الجردان أن «الهيئة» ستستعين بعدد كبير من موظفي الإدارة العامة للمجاهدين في المناطق كافة، للمساعدة في الجولات الميدانية خلال الأيام العشرة الأخيرة من شهر رمضان.
وقال لـ «الحياة» أمس أن المخالفات تنخفض بشكل واضح خلال شهر رمضان، لكن في العشر الأواخر تنشط الحركة في الأسواق وترتكب مخالفات عدة، أبرزها المعاكسات، لذا يتم تكثيف العمل الميداني، مشيراً إلى أن عمل موظفي «الهيئة» لا يقتصر على القبض والمراقبة فقط في هذا الوقت، بل يوزعون أيضاً مطويات وأشرطة دينية. وشدد على أن موظفي الهيئة لا ينظرون إلى المجتمع نظرة سوداوية أو متشائمة «بل ننظر إلى الجميع بتفاؤل، ولا نظن في الناس إلا الخير، فإن وجد خطأ فهو ينسب إلى مرتكبه وليس إلى المجتمع بكامله، لأننا في مركب واحد».
ونفى ما يتردد في الآونة الأخيرة عن ضرب بعض منسوبي الهيئة للمخالفين. وقال: «هذا الكلام غير صحيح على الإطلاق، فدور موظفي الهيئة يقتصر على القبض فقط وتسليم المخالف إلى الجهات المتخصصة»، مرحباً بأي اقتراح «مكاتب الهيئة مفتوحة لأي مقترح أو شكوى أو ملاحظة تأتي من أي فرد من أفراد المجتمع، وأخذنا بالكثير من المقترحات التي وصلتنا من شرائح المجتمع وعملنا بها، ومنها ما أصبح مشاريع كبرى فيما بعد».
وعن طبيعة عمل لجنة دراسة العمل الميداني التي أقرت أخيراً في الرئاسة العامة لهيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر، ردّ الجردان بالقول: «اللجنة تأتي ضمن توجيه الرئيس العام لهيئة الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر إبراهيم الغيث لتطوير العمل الميداني وظهوره بالشكل المطلوب، وتطلع اللجنة على سير العمل من خلال التقارير ومشاهدة الوقائع، وعلى ضوء النتائج يكون اتخاذ القرار المناسب لتطوير وتعزيز الإيجابيات وعلاج السلبيات».
http://ksa.daralhayat.com/local_news/riy...story.html
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| Saudi judge condemns 'immoral TV' |
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Posted by: ZAF - 09-14-2008 02:27 AM
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 | I wanted to name it differently but backed off at the last second (previous title "We are terrorists" )
This was published Friday 12th September 2008 on BBC NEWS:
Saudi judge condemns 'immoral TV'
The most senior judge in Saudi Arabia has said it is permissible to kill the owners of satellite TV channels which broadcast immoral programmes.
Sheikh Salih Ibn al-Luhaydan said some "evil" entertainment programmes aired by the channels promoted debauchery.
Dozens of satellite television channels broadcast across the Middle East, where they are watched by millions of Arabs every day.
The judge made the comments on a state radio programme.
He was speaking in response to a listener who asked his opinion on the airing of programmes featuring scantily-dressed women during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
"There is no doubt that these programmes are a great evil, and the owners of these channels are as guilty as those who watch them," said the sheikh.
"It is legitimate to kill those who call for corruption if their evil can not be stopped by other penalties."
Royal dilemma
Given his position as the country's most senior judge, the sheikh's views can not be easily dismissed, says BBC Arab affairs analyst, Magdi Abdelhadi.
Clerics like Sheikh al-Luhaydan represent a huge dilemma for the Saudi royal family, our correspondent adds.
On the one hand, Saudi rulers need their support to claim that they rule in the name of Islam.
But on the other hand, fighting militant Islam can be difficult when the country's top judge calls for the beheading of those he views as immoral broadcasters.
And if you think this is one of the "west are trying to destroy Islam" Then check this out
Check out what Awatan news paper published on Saturday 13th September 2008
الفتوى أثارت جدلاً وتسببت في قلق الأوساط التلفزيونية
رئيس مجلس القضاء يجيز قتل ملاّك الفضائيات "قضاءً" ما لم يمتنعوا عن بث "المجون"
أفتى رئيس مجلس القضاء الأعلى في المملكة الشيخ صالح اللحيدان بقتل ملاك القنوات الفضائية العربية "قضاءً" بصفتهم مفسدين في الأرض ودعاة فتنة. جاء ذلك في البرنامج الشهير اليومي "نور على الدرب" بثته إذاعة القرآن الكريم يوم الأربعاء المنصرم أثناء إجابته على استفسار أحد المستمعين.
وجاء السؤال الأول على لسان (أ.ع.س) وقال فيه: إن الفتن الكثيرة التي يجلبها أصحاب القنوات الفضائية في شهر رمضان على وجه الخصوص تكثر برامجهم السيئة، ويركزون في فترة المغرب وفترة العشاء على المسلمين، ما نصيحتكم سواء كانت للمشاهدين أو لأصحاب هذه القنوات؟ وجاء في إجابة الشيخ اللحيدان: إن من يدعون إلى الفتن إذا قُدر على منعه ولم يمتنع قد يحل قتله، لأن دعاة الفساد في الاعتقاد أو في العمل إذا لم يندفع شرهم بعقوبات دون القتل جاز قتلهم "قضاءً". فالأمر خطير لأن الله جل وعلا لما ذكر قتل النفس قال "أو فساد في الأرض"، فالإنسان يقتل بالنفس أو بالفساد في الأرض، وإفساد العقائد، وإفساد الأخلاق والدعوة لذلك نوع من الفساد العريض في الأرض.
وأردف: لعل أصحاب هؤلاء القنوات أن يتقوا الله جل وعلا، ويتوبوا، ويجعلوا قنوات بثهم مذكرة بخير، محذرة المسلمين من الشر، داعية لهم أن يستعدوا للمحافظة على إسلامهم وحراسة دينهم، وأن يكفوا عن نشر الفساد والإفساد، والدعوة إلى السحر والمجون؛ والله المستعان.
وقد أثارت هذه الفتوى جدلاً في مواقع الإنترنت والصحف الإلكترونية وأذاعتها قناة العربية في نشراتها الرئيسية، وتسببت في قلق لدى ملاك القنوات الفضائية الرسمية منها والخاصة، ممن حاولت "الوطن" الحصول على ردود فعلهم، لكنهم آثروا التريث في إبداء مواقفهم حتى تنجلي حقيقة الفتوى وتتضح الأمور. وقد حاولت "الوطن" الاتصال بالشيخ اللحيدان عدة مرات ولم يتم الحصول على تفصيل لسياق وظروف الفتوى من الشيخ اللحيدان نفسه رغم اتصالها المتكرر على هواتفه المعروفة.
أفتى رئيس مجلس القضاء الأعلى في المملكة الشيخ صالح اللحيدان بقتل ملاك القنوات الفضائية العربية (قضاءً) بصفتهم مفسدين في الأرض ودعاة فتنة. جاء ذلك في البرنامج الشهير اليومي (نور على الدرب) الذي بثته إذاعة القرآن الكريم يوم الأربعاء الماضي أثناء إجابته على استفسار أحد المستمعين.
وجاء السؤال الأول على لسان (أ.ع.س) وقال فيه إن الفتن الكثيرة التي يجلبها أصحاب القنوات الفضائية في شهر رمضان على وجه الخصوص تكثر برامجهم السيئة، ويركزون في فترة المغرب وفترة العشاء على المسلمين. ما نصيحتكم سواء كان للمشاهدين أو لأصحاب هذه القنوات؟ فأجاب الشيخ اللحيدان بالجواب التالي:
أنا أنصح أصحاب هؤلاء القنوات الذين يبثون الدعوة "للخناعة والمجون"، أو الفكاهة والضحك، وإضاعة الوقت بغير فائدة ولا أجر، وأحذرهم من مغبة آثار من يقتدون بما يعرض هؤلاء، وما يقعون فيه، فمن وقع في شيء مما يعرض من هذه "الفتن" بسبب ما عرض وشاهد يكون عليه وزر عمله، ويكون على دعاة ذلك الشر والبلاء مثل أوزار هؤلاء دون أن ينقص من أجر هؤلاء. فما الظن إذا كانت بعض هذه القنوات سببا في انحراف آلاف الناس. بماذا يفكر مالك القناة والموفر لها دعايات الإغراء، ودعوات "الفحش والمجون"، أو ما يجلبه من الشكوك والتشكيك؟ فقد تفسد عقائد، وتنقلب فطر، وتجترح قضايا كبار بسبب هذه الفساد ليجني مادة قليلة، وهو لا يدري.
وأضاف الشيخ اللحيدان: إن من يدعون إلى الفتن إذا قُدر على منعه ولم يمتنع قد يحل قتله، لأن دعاة الفساد في الاعتقاد أو في العمل إذا لم يندفع شرهم بعقوبات دون القتل جاز قتلهم "قضاءً ". فالأمر خطير لأن الله جل وعلا لما ذكر قتل النفس قال"أو فساد في الأرض"، فالإنسان يقتل بالنفس أو بالفساد في الأرض، وإفساد العقائد، وإفساد الأخلاق والدعوة لذلك نوع من الفساد العريض في الأرض.
وأردف: لعل أصحاب هذه القنوات أن يتقوا الله جل وعلا، ويتوبوا، ويجعلوا قنوات بثهم مذكرة بخير، محذرة المسلمين من الشر، داعية لهم أن يستعدوا للمحافظة على إسلامهم وحراسة دينهم، وأن يكفوا عن نشر الفساد والإفساد، والدعوة إلى السحر والمجون؛ والله المستعان.
وقد أثارت هذه الفتوى جدلا في مواقع الإنترنت والصحف الإلكترونية وأذاعتها قناة العربية في نشراتها الرئيسية. وتسببت في قلق لدى ملاك القنوات الفضائية الرسمية منها والخاصة، ممن حاولت "الوطن" الحصول على ردود فعلهم، لكنهم آثروا التريث في إبداء مواقفهم حتى تنجلي حقيقة الفتوى وتتضح الأمور. وقد حاولت "الوطن" الاتصال بالشيخ اللحيدان عدة مرات ولم يتم الحصول على تفصيل لسياق وظروف الفتوى من الشيخ اللحيدان نفسه رغم اتصالها المتكرر على هواتفه المعروفة.
Links
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7613575.stm
http://www.alwatan.com.sa/news/newsdetai...&groupID=0
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| Feeling flirty? Take a cold shower. |
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Posted by: Lascar - 02-23-2008 09:41 PM
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Saudi men arrested for 'flirting'
Young men in a shopping centre in Saudi Arabia (archive)
Relations between the sexes outside marriage is against the law
Prosecutors in Saudi Arabia have begun investigating 57 young men who were arrested on Thursday for flirting with girls at shopping centres in Mecca.
The men are accused of wearing indecent clothes, playing loud music and dancing in order to attract the attention of girls, the Saudi Gazette reported.
They were arrested following a request of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.
The mutaween enforce Saudi Arabia's conservative brand of Islam, Wahhabism.
Earlier in the month, the authorities enforced a ban on the sale of red roses and other symbols used in many countries to mark Valentine's Day.
The ban is partly because of the connection with a "pagan Christian holiday", and also because the festival itself is seen as encouraging relations between the sexes outside marriage, punishable by law in the kingdom.
The Prosecution and Investigation Commission said it had received reports of such "bad" behaviour by 57 young men at a number of shopping centres in the holy city of Mecca, the Saudi Gazette said.
The guardians of some of the men defended their actions, however, saying they would regularly get together at the weekend to have fun without ever violating laws governing the segregation of the sexes, it added.
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| Going to Riyadh, Girl on a Death Row? |
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Posted by: Aetas - 02-21-2008 08:03 PM
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Hey Everyone! Gosh, it’s been over 2 years since I’ve posted something on Jeddah-Elite, and I’m back, excited and energetic!
This thread’s topic is something that is quite personal, but I think it would be beneficial to share with the rest of you. My guess, I’m not the only one who’s going through this.
I’ll make this brief, I grew up with a certain "Idea" about non Hijazi people, and to be more specific, Saudis from the central region *Najdis*. Funny enough, here I am, standing before my future and destiny leading me to a life with a husband and a family, in what I consider, simply, Hell On Earth, a.k.a Riyadh . Of course, if it wasn’t for love leading me there, I wouldn’t think twice about moving there or even stepping a foot there, and with that I learnt my most valuable lesson, Never say Never!
To comfort myself I decided to weigh the pros and cons of living in Riyadh, I’ve never been there, but I do have friends who are either from there or lived there when they were younger. I went to them, desperate to hear some good things about Riyadh.
So is it true? Is it true a woman can’t even go to a mall alone? Is it true you’re beaten to death with a stick if you don’t cover up your face, hands, feet & toe nails?
All these rumors or facts about this mysterious extremist citymakes me think I’ve been living in a completely different country.
So, what is the truth about Riyadh?
Who is out there that can actually stand up and give me real facts about living in this mystifying city?
Who can solve me this enigma?
I have posted this thread to share my thoughts with you. Discuss and weigh Riyadh’s Pros & Cons together.
It would help me and many others to get the right information and idea from those of you who have actually seen and been there!
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| SR20,000 Loan to Renovate Old Jeddah Buildings |
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Posted by: Nitro - 02-06-2008 08:59 AM
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JEDDAH, 5 February 2008 — The Jeddah Municipality yesterday announced its readiness to make available SR20,000 in loans to the owners of old buildings in the historic district of Jeddah to renovate them immediately. The municipality’s offer came after an historical building (Baashen House) in the area caught fire recently as a result of an electrical short-circuit.
Dr. Adnan Adas, director of the department for developing and renovating buildings in the historic district, said property owners were responsible for the recurrent fires.
He raised objections against renting old buildings to large number of Saudi and expatriate tenants, saying the buildings lack the capability to hold them.
“A special panel has been formed to identify buildings that require immediate renovation and the eviction of their occupants,” the official said. “A technical directory has been prepared for the renovation of these buildings,” he added.
Brig. Mohammad Al-Ghamdi, director of Civil Defense in Jeddah, attributed the recurrent fires in these old buildings to their occupants.
“Some people use these buildings to store clothes and other goods,” he pointed out.
He also emphasized the need for spraying the wooden scuttles with special paint to prevent them from catching fire. He also proposed the setting up of a special fire-fighting network in the area to put out fires quickly.
There are about 550 historical buildings in the district. Fifty of them are listed as Grade One buildings, 250 Grade Two and 250 Grade Three.
During the last 25 years some 60 buildings have collapsed. The last two years have seen some 10 to 13 buildings in the district either collapsed or burned.
Good News,but i wonder if the 20 000 is enough,lets see what dr.sami angawi will say! |
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